Bitte unbann mein cha Alliance.Es tut mir leid!

Titel: Verfasst am: 12.12.07 15:10

DaRealProf hat folgendes geschrieben:

Little bit paranoid about the admins, aren't you? Wink

If someone breaks the rules, or whatever else acts like laws in the real World, he will get sentenced for it. Even if he didn't know the rule existed.

Admins on HHC are not Admins because they are clanmembers or anything else, but they have become Admins for being trusted members of our Community.
If you don't trust in our Admins, that Server is nothing for you.
I was a member in an Antipirateclan, too, and I didn't ever got the feeling that Admins would privilege Members of their Clans.

I have seen Servers on which people are banned for simply shooting an admin. Did that ever happended to you? No.
If you look in the List of banned Players, you can see that even some OIA got banned.
Control your members in a way they don't break the rules anymore, and no member of TCE will be banned in future.

I'm getting really annoyed by that Assumption of Admins being biased - it's simply not true.

Well we got bad experience from other server our whole clan was banned because we didn't surrender the war even when we fight outnumbered. So my members little lost trusts @ admins on servers and are quickly paranoid when they see admins belong 2 enemy clan like on previous server.
reason for ban: Nobody likes you lol.
So you must understand how hard is to convince members, that admins have nothing 2 do with the war if they see this, we lost good fighter and member like we lost them also many from other server(lost interest for freelancer) Than it will be even harder to tell them this is not the same case. I know admins just followed their rules and i dont think that they did something wrong , but i think we all deserve 2nd chance
But we come here cause i know admins are more mature than on previous server and i am not accusing admins works with enemy clan i just said my members are getting the felling they do but i am telling them everytime not to involve admins in this mess because admins have nothing with this war and with understanding and compassion of admins i could show them they dont work for nobody but for server and that nice word can do more good than harm. So i hope admins will think about this situation more clearly. I am teaching my members to ignore as much as possible but its hard too control somebody's feelings so i can just show him right way from wrong.

Titel: Verfasst am: 12.12.07 15:16

Kirki hat folgendes geschrieben:

~BlueThunder~ hat folgendes geschrieben:

oh ne kurze entschuldigung und das wars schon?

Was soll er den darüber hinaus sonst noch machen ? Offenbarungseid ablegen ?

... sorry for spam, falls das hier nicht hingehört Embarassed

, aber vielleicht wär's gar nicht schlecht irgendwas zwischen tempban und onewayban zu haben - z.B. 'nen "Täter-Opfer-Ausgleich" ingame, vielleicht mit nem Admin als Mediator/Vermittler; a là "Du kriegst xMio bzw. 1/4; 1/2 oder 2/3 meiner Credits als Schadenersatz" + "zMio Geldstrafe an Server" je nach schwere des Falls.
Würde natürlich 'nen Offenbarungseid beinhalten: "Ich habe auf dieser ID insgesamt yChars mit insg. XXXMio Credits...". Grübel

Strafmindernd (in Bezug auf ID Ban) könnte die Offenlegung anderer ID's sein ... Fl-Offenbahrungseid. Wink

Titel: Verfasst am: 12.12.07 16:05

Zitat:

So i hope admins will think about this situation more clearly.

This issue has been discussed among the admins a week or longer I think. The dissicions is final now.
PS: I hope you didn't missed the last post on page one

@Greggie
"Gib mir Geld oder du kriegst nen One Way Ban", selbst mit Admin Moderation würde sowas hohe Wellen schlagen. Für Diskussionen zu dem Thema aber bitte einen eigenen Thread aufmachen.

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[TCEagles]crashbx hat folgendes geschrieben:

Kirki hat folgendes geschrieben:

Decision: No Unban.

Reason: Bug Using + Ban in the past and multiples insults in recent times (Ingame + Forum)

My members now really got felling while they have war with OIA/OEG in gamma they got in war with admins also, so if we wanna have war catch somebody making mistakes, i can go this way but be ready 2 treat your members same as others.

You won't get into war with the admins if you got war with OIA/OEG - you'll just get in trouble, if you don't obey the rules at this server.
You aren't treated different from other players.
If your members don't know how to behave, they'll get the consequences if there are any proofes - if members of other clans behave the same, they'll feel the same consequences, if there are any proofes.

Zitat:

He made apology and if that is not enough what he can do more to please you and make you forget ? I understand ban is somekinda way too calm down the one who was breaking rules, but one way ban is 2 hard if user make apology and say he wont do it again. But if he repeats himself its understandable.

If you kill someone and later say "Sorry that I've killed him", you'll get a punishment anyway.
Our decision is one-way.
He can start with a new ID here again.
But his old chars are gone, and we won't reactivate them for him.
There must be a punishment - this is his punishment.

Zitat:

His previous mistakes shouldn't count in this matter because, he didnt know about it and he was not warned about it before ban and he behaved about that matter, for this case he admitted that he went far and he didnt denied it and he is sory about it so what is the point now here personal matter of guy who was insulted or you are trying 2 prove something ?

Older delicts are often showed again in front of a court.
If you've already done something illegal, your punishment for the new delict will rise because this seems the only way for the court, how you seem to learn.

Zitat:

I understand everybody can go far and lose their nerves we are humans not machines and if its somebody sincerely sorry i dont see a reason to go ban forever, i was insulted many times and most of the time i use function /ignore and forget it but if this will go on i can start reporting everytime screens that i was insulted and others will do the same it wont matter what opponent will say but will be enough that we will fell insulted and we will demand actions against ppl who insult, do you want that ban war starts ? I hope not because than you will have more work 2 do.

If someone insults you: Screen it and show it us.
If you don't want this and you just ignore those people, then it isn't our problem.
We'll just get active, if someone shows us his proofes or if we are direct wittnesses of that incident.

Yes, we are humans - but as humans we need also rules to get a working community and society.
People how disobey those rules will get that what they deserve.

Titel: Verfasst am: 12.12.07 16:42

kanzler2 hat folgendes geschrieben:

and the admin team is just doing their work, OIA and OEG have no advantages. forget the idea that oia got money/weapons or sth else from an admin.

Not strictly true

Unrelated to this post but some OEG members consistantly lag badly, 50% of community consistantly point this out. 0% is done about it

BT lag when fighting with TCE against OIA / OEG and because everyone on that side expresses same view, they are warned

This is 1st case of non consistancy I have seen from admins, but like they are just human, cant be blamed for there actions right?

Titel: Verfasst am: 12.12.07 16:50

Kicks due to lag/loss/fluct detection do not take care, if the kicked one is TCE/OEG/OIA/another clan member/no clan member.

So you can be sure that the same rules work for everyone.

This applies for kicks as well as everything else, for example bans.

Titel: Verfasst am: 12.12.07 16:54

Tedi hat folgendes geschrieben:

BT lag when fighting with TCE against OIA / OEG and because everyone on that side expresses same view, they are warned

BT were warned for lag by Kirki...see warnings thread

Titel: Verfasst am: 12.12.07 17:00

Fireman and Hawk? Even I saw them lagging around, and I guess you never saw me side with the OIA

Titel: Verfasst am: 12.12.07 17:03

Tedi hat folgendes geschrieben:

BT lag when fighting with TCE against OIA / OEG and because everyone on that side expresses same view, they are warned

BT were warned for lag by Kirki...see warnings thread

Don't mix this up:
as a reaction of the problems with some players - that were warned - the admins decided to sharpen up the kick system!

Warning for the two BTs: on 22.11.2007

New thresholds for kicks: since 23.11.2007 (announced 22.11.2007)
see here

Equal rules for everyone!

Exclamation

Titel: Verfasst am: 12.12.07 17:06

Nosferatu hat folgendes geschrieben:

Fireman and Hawk? Even I saw them lagging around, and I guess you never saw me side with the OIA

Yes BT lag, but no worse than some OEG do

Admins used opinion rather than tools to place warning for them, this is because they were fighting them and saw unaceptable lag, this is unconsistant

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na ja ich sehe das hier als überflüssig an
soll er sich benehmen lernen
andere wurden hier schon für virtuelle käsestullen gebannt

hey TCE create new Acount spend some time and be carefull next time
its all learning by doing here

ah Finally we are are happy again so topic can closed Cool