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Beitrag Titel: escorts not(!) needed
Verfasst am: 15.07.08 12:24
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keep the offtopic comments somewhere else, thanks in advance.

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some time ago tried to make a living with flying escorts. in order to make this possible i created a completely new character that has no connection to my other characters or whatever i do all day long.

the only reactions i got were:
once someone hired me and flew straight from manhattan into the sun.
twice someone said he might hire me later.
a couple of times people made jokes about my name.
otherwise i had no requests although i offered my service regularly (about 10-15 minutes). i especially wondered about that at prime time when lots of traders without an escort and as many pirates and terrorists had been online.

my conclusion:
escorts are still not really needed, even without additional charges for high risk. the escort function has a quite good payout and for just flying around and chilling it is easy money.
but maybe the traders are too paranoid aswell or whatever...
seems like it was just a waste of time to try it.

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nunja, ich habe mir vor einiger zeit die mühe gemacht und wollte undercover eskorten fliegen. dazu habe ich mir eigens einen neutralen charakter erstellt, der nicht mit mir und dem, was ich sonst so betreibe, in verbindung steht.

die einzigen reaktionen, die ich bekommen habe waren:
einmal hat mich jemand angeheuert und ist direkt von manhattan in die sonne geflogen.
zweimal hat man mir gesagt, man würde irgendwann mal darauf zurückkommen.
man hat sich mehrmals über meinen namen lustig gemacht.
ansonsten hatte ich leider keine anfragen, obwohl ich meine dienste regelmäßig (ca. alle 10-15 minuten) angeboten habe. diese tatsache hat mich besonders zu stoßzeiten gewundert, wenn viele trader ohne eskorte unterwegs waren und eben soviele hinterhältige piraten und terroristen.

mein fazit:
eskorten werden immer noch nicht dringend gebraucht, selbst ohne gefahrenzuschlag. die escort funktion wirft gar nicht mal so wenig ab und für einfach nur mit rumfliegen und nichtstun ist das einfaches geldverdienen.
möglicherweise sind die trader aber auch zu paranoid oder was weiß ich...
scheint so als wäre der versuch nur zeitverschwendung gewesen.

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Verfasst am: 15.07.08 12:29
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escorts are good for clans wich can escort their own transporters and get some money too, or for freelancer transporters that have friends with fighter chars.../escort is not profitable if u use it as a job..
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Well, I don't think that escorts are not needed because the freighters are still too strong. If you ask me, Freighters are too weak. If a pirate attacks you (he will nearly always attack the freighter first) the freighter will die. Always. The attacker just needs to aim at the freighter and dodge a little bit. And that means that an escort wouldn't make trading much safer. The risk is always the same, and for that, many traders don't want to risk to fly with an escort which will kill the freighter just before it can docks at the last waypoint to sell the loot alone.

As I joined hhc, I already thought, freighters are way to weak, but the ballancing was still quite okay. And since that, freighters were only made weaker and weaker. :/
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Beitrag Titel: Re: escorts not(!) needed
Verfasst am: 15.07.08 12:40
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witchhunter hat folgendes geschrieben:
...
...i created a completely new character that has no connection to my other characters or whatever i do all day long.
...
but maybe the traders are too paranoid aswell or whatever...
[/]lazy germans[/b]
... und wollte undercover eskorten fliegen.
...
möglicherweise sind die trader aber auch zu paranoid oder was weiß ich...

Vielleicht warst Du einfach nur nicht der erste, der solch eine Idee hatte (und sich irgendwann als Pirat enttarnt hat) - manche Leute haben ein langes Gedächtnis für bereits benutzte Maschen.

Maybe, You were not the first one with this idea (and uncovered himself as pirate at some later point) - some people may remember aready used ideas.

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Never seen this offers when I was online...

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...an escorting pirate Schäbig ^^

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FalCoN[SVK] hat folgendes geschrieben:
...an escorting pirate Schäbig ^^

Exclamation Schäbig ^^

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FalCoN[SVK] hat folgendes geschrieben:
...an escorting pirate Schäbig ^^


the way i act ingame depends on the character i choose. in all the years i played different roles: trader, pirate, hunter, mercenary, terrorist, military, in clans or as an individual. diversity keeps the game interesting.
i also cannot remember that i offered escorts in my pirate character.

Harvox hat folgendes geschrieben:
that means that an escort wouldn't make trading much safer.


just because of 2 reasons:
1. a bad convoy leader that drives the convoy right into trouble
2. an escort fighter that doesnt know what his job actually is


in another topic i saw a complaint that an escort would slow down the convoy... lol?
as far as i know a fighter is more maneuverable than a trader and so the fighter is maybe slowed down, but not the trader! else it would not be possible to catch a freighter.

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Well the slow-down depends on the way, how you use the escort. If you let the fighter fly and look for enemys, then he slows down the convoy, because the freighter has to wait fo the 'ok' from the escort ... but thats safety

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Verfasst am: 16.07.08 05:58
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witch. dont be depressed that you didnt got hired. Why hire a foreigner if instead many "friends" are online or guys you know much better? As Ribald said.. Most traders were fooled once.. or twice.. or even more often

Its normal on a server full of pirates that you dont trust everyone

Especially because some pirates like it to fool new players on HHC. So first lesson you learn: Dont trust foreigners

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Well, from now on excorts should be requested far often. Tested the new features yesterday, an escort is really worth it!

@witch: Wanna do a race? Transport/GBF vs. Eagle? Try to fly Ruiz-->Willard in less than 22 minutes, then you might have a chance.

Especially in all systems with tradelanes and jumpgates an escort slows you down, as long as escort and freighter fly together (-->actually this makes more sense due to the sight-limitation of the hullbonus of the freighter). The leader always has to wait for the aftercoming ship, this takes much time, as I already said, smth about 10% more.

Ragnaroek's version slows you even more down. This is usually only used when you know, that in the actual system there is a pirate, or even more.

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well, actually you always have to choose between safety and high profit. you will never make max profit without taking risks.

i also remember some threads where traders were complaining they would not find escorts. so i made an escort fighter, offered my service. noone was interested.

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trust is the problem, as someone said already.
the last two days i was looking for escorts, only 25% of all of my taderuns were escorted becausenoone wanted. 50% of my escorts were F-Ti, good friends. "im not inerested", "dont have a char there" or "its too dangerous" are the most common answers, IF you get an answer.
those ppl wo are good in pvp dont like cruising through the space (understandable) and many others dont even have heard of the /escort feature.... well, if i see you, ill talk to you, i always want an escort

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if u see me ingame i'll escort anybody..if i m not attking pirates...Razz
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