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Ok its very noob like but a certain person i know keeps doing it and iam sure they should be somthing aganist it.
Admins is there anything written in your rules against F1, if not can i politly request that there should be.
Also how do i gain evidenc?. screenshots?...one before with thek in front of me and a 2nd ith them gone?

I will gain the evidence, if you suggest to me how, before i revial who it is, although you may already no

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Hi,

F1 using is ok. But if you use F1 you must waiting 4 seconds so we think its ok against F1 people.

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I only ask as it very annoying if you attack say a trader and your in the middle of killing them but they use bots and then disappear in F1. Leaving me sitting there scratching my head lol

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Use good Weapons so you can kill Trader

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and use f4 and Enter to prevent him using f1 to flee, mate ^^

Just kidding...

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Use novabombs
They kill every trader within 4 seconds

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Lol thanks for your suggestions
"Neikon" i am using good wepaons, iam not a noob.

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I mean Weapons Like Cannonball or Sunslayer Torpedos with many "WUUMMS"

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lol that would be cool, if i actually had a chance to get close, as soon as iam in range she F1's

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lol I think know about who r u talkin about... FLying Lady of Freedom LOL
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haha yes Brujah knows lol
is it not very annoying...she could at least except defeat and die with some honour
Cowards use F1

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Another situation. About 2 or 3 days ago I wanted to tax a trader - Replicant. He used F1 when I asked for money, and changed char. I was totally surprised to see, that Replicant is a trader char of FDG Darkshild. Darkshild is about 70 lev, so he must play for a long time, and I thought he's experienced enough to NOT ACT like a 10 years old child. If so experienced, hi-level players use F1 on sight and doesn't care, what kind of example it gives to the ppl who just started to play on our server??

BTW: I told him that FDG clan killed me many times for my piracy, and I NEVER used F1. He sad he doesn't care and it's not my problem. ROFL. I really can't understand that :/
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If you shoot down a transporter it losts its freight, its nanobots and shield batteries and that is much more worse as dying with a fighter, so don´t compare things that are as different as this is.

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Suidakra hat folgendes geschrieben:
If you shoot down a transporter it losts its freight, its nanobots and shield batteries...

Well, thats our Risk as Trader-Jocks...
If those pirates manage to get close enough to fire, bad Luck for me... Crying or Very sad - one kill is free...
Next time I´ll slip past them... or look for company and hit back - Time for trading after that
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Ribald Corello - u are a real trader Very Happy I like ur point of view even if u don't pay my taxes LOL

Suidakra - don't try to explain F1 using by traders, it's almost the same like Fighter who reloads in fight - there is NO EXPLANATION for such behaviour :/

Greetings for all who play according to RPG style^^
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yes. from ur point of view it makes sense brujah.
i did f 1 with trader too but blew up anyway^^

i see ur point and will stick to it too now, but its a personal point of view,
and cant be forced or shouldn't be reminded if honest or not.

it depends on us, so we all chose what fit us the best what ever that might be.

and the example to new ppl on server, well the new guys have to find out sooner or later for themselves too.

rpg is good, but dont fit everybody. we should keep that in mind too dude.

cu laterz.
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There is one more thing to say on your opinion Brujah... PVP with fighters only is often wanted by both sides and if it isn´t the fighter pilot who doesn´t want a PVP has got the chance to kill the other(s) and fly away.
I don´t know any transporter pilot who wants a fight against a fighter, so if there is nobody to help this transporter why shouldn´t he leave a "battle" when he has the option.

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XnitehawkX: I see ur point of view dude, it sounds very reasonable Of course, it's my personal opinion^^

But traders, that use F1 on sight of a taxer, makes more "damage" to themselves, than to the taxer. Why? Because next time, taxer won't loose precious seconds typing to them about tax, he will try to shoot them as fast as possible. So, at the end - it's far more worse for them, to be remebered as a F1 users.

I started as a pirate, killing transporters on sight - I know how it sounds^^ - but I converted to be a taxer, to give traders a chance to live and continue their business. But when I know someone is "F1 using trader" I just shoot...

But of course every player can choose his own code of behaviour... and face the consequences Very Happy
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Whatever happened to the thrill of the chase. Trading without risk is'nt any fun, nothing feels better then beating the risk and making your destination. And as a hunter wheres my reward if i outsmart my opponant. Just look at nature, whens the hunter wins he wins and eats lol
Burjah is totally right, its RPG, cat and mouse. Except defeat, with honour.
I'am suprised to hear about darkshield from yuo Brujah. Thing is experinced players know the game and trade so much that being caught dont have that much of an impacted. Therfore if they get beat, they should concided that this time they have sliped up some where.

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Brujah hat folgendes geschrieben:
Suidakra - don't try to explain F1 using by traders, it's almost the same like Fighter who reloads in fight - there is NO EXPLANATION for such behaviour :/

Greetings for all who play according to RPG style^^


Well, well. The man-who-knows-all-and-is-right-every-time is speaking, eh?
I don't mind reloading in Combat as long as it isn't a duel. Reloading is a normal feature of the game so why shouldn't people use it during a "free dogfight"? It has nothing(!) to do with RPG.
And talking about traders accepting their fate... you will NEVER see me use F1... but you will NEVER see me pay tax to anybody either Wink
And if you start annoying me or my clan mates you can be sure I'll be going after you and yes, I will reload during that fight if I have to. As I said: It's no duel... but ruthless pirate hunting. And people who go for freighters without warning (and that's what you're doing, no matter what you say) do not deserve anything else than destruction on sight by any means necessary.
I didn't open fire first... you did. I wanted to wait and see what you would be doing although my clan mates told me that I could shoot you right away because you're out of law... and you proved they were right: You opened fire on me and my trader mate without warning and without asking for tax. So from now on you just get what you deserve. If I join the server, have spare time and see you online you will not have time to go after traders. Even if the Count will be 10:1 against me when we are finished (never played any pvp btw ^^)... I will go for you!
Because of people like you I gave up my neutral status and joined the good cause.

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Suidakra - don't try to explain F1 using by traders, it's almost the same like Fighter who reloads in fight - there is NO EXPLANATION for such behaviour :/

Greetings for all who play according to RPG style^^


Well, well. The man-who-knows-all-and-is-right-every-time is speaking, eh?
I don't mind reloading in Combat as long as it isn't a duel. Reloading is a normal feature of the game so why shouldn't people use it during a "free dogfight"? It has nothing(!) to do with RPG.
And talking about traders accepting their fate... you will NEVER see me use F1... but you will NEVER see me pay tax to anybody either Wink
And if you start annoying me or my clan mates you can be sure I'll be going after you and yes, I will reload during that fight if I have to. As I said: It's no duel... but ruthless pirate hunting. And people who go for freighters without warning (and that's what you're doing, no matter what you say) do not deserve anything else than destruction on sight by any means necessary.
I didn't open fire first... you did. I wanted to wait and see what you would be doing although my clan mates told me that I could shoot you right away because you're out of law... and you proved they were right: You opened fire on me and my trader mate without warning and without asking for tax. So from now on you just get what you deserve. If I join the server, have spare time and see you online you will not have time to go after traders. Even if the Count will be 10:1 against me when we are finished (never played any pvp btw ^^)... I will go for you!


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Hehe, sorry Chrono.
Just wanted to make clear that from my point of view there is a BIG difference between using F1 and using nanos/batteries. It also depends on what kind of fight it is. Fighting a player in the run of the normal gameplay because it is necessary is something completely different for me than fighting in a duel for example.
It is much more unhonorable to attack a neutral player without any word and warning (RPG to at least 90% consists of communication, don't you agree?).
But okay, I'll keep out of this thread from now on and you guys can go on posting what everybody (of you) wants to hear.

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Hehe, sorry Chrono.
Just wanted to make clear that from my point of view there is a BIG difference between using F1 and using nanos/batteries. It also depends on what kind of fight it is. Fighting a player in the run of the normal gameplay because it is necessary is something completely different for me than fighting in a duel for example.
It is much more unhonorable to attack a neutral player without any word and warning (RPG to at least 90% consists of communication, don't you agree?).
But okay, I'll keep out of this thread from now on and you guys can go on posting what everybody (of you) wants to hear.


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Shooting at traders or other people without comment or warning is also never good ;0)
But I see we don't get any further here...
I do agree that using F1 is pitiful. But Bots/Batteries? My opponent can also load and use them since it is a PART of the game itself. I don't have any advantage to him by using them since he has the same possibility. Would be the same as when people start complaining when they get killed by ten times better equipped ships. Nobody would go ahead and "ban" nomad blasters just because of that since the bad equipped guy also can get himself a pair of those.
If I get attacked without warning people have to live with the consequences and I will use any means I find appropriate (and not necessarily the ones my enemy likes) to prevent it happens again. If an opponent in an honourable duel doesn't want bots/batteries to be used I will agree. That's it.

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Shooting at traders or other people without comment or warning is also never good ;0)
But I see we don't get any further here...
I do agree that using F1 is pitiful. But Bots/Batteries? My opponent can also load and use them since it is a PART of the game itself. I don't have any advantage to him by using them since he has the same possibility. Would be the same as when people start complaining when they get killed by ten times better equipped ships. Nobody would go ahead and "ban" nomad blasters just because of that since the bad equipped guy also can get himself a pair of those.
If I get attacked without warning people have to live with the consequences and I will use any means I find appropriate (and not necessarily the ones my enemy likes) to prevent it happens again. If an opponent in an honourable duel doesn't want bots/batteries to be used I will agree. That's it.


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